Bill Haslam talking alongside Bredesen
Category: University News

Title: Georgetown Hosts 2 Former Governors for Conversation on Civil Discourse in First Georgetown Dialogues Initiative Event

Georgetown hosted former Tennessee Governors Phil Bredesen and Bill Haslam in a Sept. 23 event that explored how to promote dialogue across differences.

Bredesen and Haslam, who come from opposite sides of the aisle, co-host the popular “You Might Be Right” podcast, a show from the Baker School of Public Policy and Public Affairs at the University of Tennessee that explores contemporary issues with guests from across the ideological spectrum.

Phil Bredesen talking in Copley Formal Lounge
Phil Bredesen, left, served as governor of Tennessee from 2003 to 2011.

The gathering was the first signature event of the Georgetown Dialogues Initiative (GDI), a new initiative that promotes civil discourse and exposes students to respectful dialogue between people with opposing viewpoints. 

“We were honored to host the former governors at the first signature event for the Georgetown Dialogues Initiative,” said Vice Provost for Education David Edelstein. “Governors Bredesen and Haslam modeled for us what we want our students to do in the classroom and in their own lives beyond Georgetown as they use civil discourse to be effective leaders and changemakers.”

In the Copley Formal Lounge, the two former governors discussed how they developed their political identities before sharing their differing views on immigration and education reform in the U.S. In sharing their beliefs, Bredesen and Haslam modeled how they engage in civil discourse in their podcast despite their ideological differences.

Following their conversation, Abigail Marsh, a psychology professor in the College of Arts and Sciences, joined the two governors in a moderated discussion on how to engage in civil discourse.

Abigail Marsh moderating a conversation with Bredesen and Haslam
During the conversation, the two governors spoke on the importance of listening to others and going out of your way to interact with different people.

Haslam, a Republican, credited both his and Bredesen’s business backgrounds for preparing them to hold public office and seek common ground with people from all backgrounds.

“We both come from a results-oriented background that said that the challenge is to solve the problem. It’s not to beat the other guy,” Haslam said.

Bill Haslam speaking in Copley Formal Lounge
Bill Haslam succeeded Bredesen as governor of Tennesee, serving from 2011 to 2019.

Haslam also explained how difficult governing can be and how important it is to seek opinions from people with different beliefs.

“One of the things I think you walk away from this incredible university is this: To try and understand the other side of the argument because I guarantee you there’s a good argument,” Haslam said. “Now you might not agree with it, but listen enough to understand the other side of the argument. It will be worth your time.”

Building off of Haslam’s remarks, Bredesen, a Democrat, emphasized how bipartisan policy solutions are often the most effective, citing the bipartisan establishment of Social Security and how as governor he reformed Tennessee’s healthcare system with ideas from progressive and conservative thinkers.

The Tennesee Democrat also told the audience how important face-to-face interactions are in having civil conversations with others.

“With social media, with the internet and people being at home during COVID, you’re losing some of that personal contact,” Bredesen said. “To see another person as another person who’s deserving of respect, you have to see the other person. You have to interact with them.”

Both Haslam and Bredesen explained how campaigning for public office forced them out of their comfort zones and put them in contact with people from all backgrounds across Tennessee. These interactions allowed them to empathize with people who were different from them and see what they cared about as voters, they said.

“It made me a vastly better governor than I would have been without doing them,” Bredesen said. “You just had so much more understanding of how people make decisions and what kinds of things are important to them in their lives.”

At the end of the conversation, Bredesen and Haslam took questions from students, who asked questions ranging from the merits of the two-party system to their opinions on gun control.

Luke Keller (C’28), a Nashville native, wanted to attend the event to see two of his former governors. He said he appreciated the frank conversation they had about disagreeing over issues and how to have a healthy dialogue on important topics.

“It’s refreshing to hear a conversation about discourse, and as someone who is tired of the fiery rhetoric and divisiveness, their message of trusting the process and continuing to fight the fight and have those conversations was important for me to hear,” Keller said.

In addition to signature events like You Might be Right, GDI will offer Spotlight Courses, which are new or reimagined courses to promote dialogue across differences. These courses, which will be offered starting in the spring semester, will be centered on dialogue and range from exploring the relationships between capitalism and sustainability to gender and the law as well as artificial intelligence.

Some of the courses will feature two faculty members with opposing viewpoints who will model civil discourse in the classroom for students.

GDI is also convening a cohort of faculty teaching first-year seminars to consider alternative ways to promote the values of dialogue within first-year seminars. In addition, other first-year seminar faculty, working with the Center for New Designs in Learning and Scholarship (CNDLS), will receive innovation grants to support new methodologies in the classroom to support dialogue.

“The confrontation of opposing ideas is the essence of learning,” Georgetown Provost Robert M. Groves said. “The aim of the Georgetown Dialogues Initiative is to give all Georgetown students tools for an important lifelong skill — exposure to and personal experiences in respectful dialogue between persons with opposing viewpoints.”